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      "text": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl: is that a question for the mic?",
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      "text": "Yes, it\u0027s intended to be an IP cert for the IP",
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      "text": "We all apologise for being Martin Thomson",
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      "text": "I\u0027m sorry for being Martin Thomson",
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      "text": "perhaps we all should, but I\u0027m pretty sure we don\u0027t all do",
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      "text": "I apologize for being or not being Ben Schwartz.",
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      "text": "+1 to the goals of the document",
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      "text": "Please stop interrupting the talk",
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      "text": "Eliot Lear.",
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      "text": "the ickiness should become apparent:-)",
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      "text": "Let\u0027s get started please, no discussion about ickiness",
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      "text": "s/ekr/Eric Rescorla",
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      "text": "There are few enough slides here that the chairs aren?t too worried about time.",
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      "text": "But we are monitoring.",
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      "text": "Eric Rescorla @ the mic",
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      "text": "MT @ the mic",
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      "text": ":-D",
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      "text": "All those who apologise for being Martin Thompson please hum now",
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      "text": ".sp",
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      "text": "There\u0027s a very long mic line for a protocol that\u0027s \"done\".",
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      "text": "tks @york i was about to ask any help for that",
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      "text": "@jhoyla and this was supposed to be the less-controversial part of the day",
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      "text": ":-)",
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      "text": "Patrick McManus at the mic",
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      "text": "@jhoyla I haven\u0027t seen many protocols that are \"done\" where the discovery mechanism hasn\u0027t been chosen yet.",
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      "text": ":joy:",
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      "text": "Ted Hardy @ mic",
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      "text": "Hardie.",
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      "text": "the leaks issue was the ickky part MT didn\u0027t mention (nor apologise for:-)",
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      "text": "Someone poke Martin that the mic line is closed.",
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      "text": "Hardie* :flushed:",
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      "text": "DoTH?",
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      "text": "\"DoT Associated\" \u003d DOTA ? we can add another acronym",
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      "text": "DoHoT?",
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      "text": "Warren Kumari @ mic",
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      "text": "Erik Nygren",
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      "text": "Surely someone is close enough to martin to remind him that the mic line is closed.",
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      "text": "Pete: making the wg do your dirty work?",
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      "text": "+1 for \u003d\u003d1",
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      "text": "***Yorgos Yorgos just joined the room",
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      "text": ";)",
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      "text": "Ben Schwartz @ remote mic",
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    {
      "text": "There. Did it myself. :-b",
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    {
      "text": "gold star!",
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      "author": "aaron"
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      "text": "***Lukas Zbinden just left the room",
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      "text": "Jared Mauch @ mic",
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      "text": "OK, I\u0027ll send more comments via email.  There are some properties of the SUDN design that produce surprising properties.  If the intent is to discover the DoH server on the local network, this is not what you get here.  The DNS server on my local network will pass the SUDN to something outside of that network.",
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      "author": "Martin Thomson"
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      "text": "To Jared\u0027s point, a new DHCP option also works if that smells better.",
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      "text": "I was thinking more broadly about enabling a conversation between client and resolver.",
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      "text": "***Ond?ej Caletka just joined the room",
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      "text": "would be great to see a sketch of a DHCP option here",
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      "text": "If there is no appetite for that, then a simpler approach is easy.",
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      "text": "joehall: the DHCP option looks simple: you can put a URI in a DHCP option (if it is short enough)",
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      "text": "Petr Spacek from CZ.nic",
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      "text": "@joehall: isn\u0027t there a great history of people not using newly defined DHCP options? (so I\u0027m told anyway)",
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    {
      "text": ":(",
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      "text": "yeah",
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      "text": "@sftcd yeah it\u0027s sort of like RRtypes",
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      "text": "The clarification dropped from the mic: The user\u0027s IP addresses is considered somewhat sensitive information in WEBRTC. You have to share it with Javascript in order to establish connections, but the WEBRTC / RTCWEB folks are presently trying to spec out use of mDNS in order to hide the information from Javascript.",
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      "text": "(which are much easier to deploy than they used to be, but word has been slow to get out)",
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      "text": "You certainly can try to define a DHCP option for DOH, but given how a presentation in Montreal went, expect significant opposition.",
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      "text": "@suz: I tried out the new ESNI RRYTPE and it just worked for a zone-i-own and dig",
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      "text": "(NEW being in the experimental space, not newly registered)",
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      "text": "@sftcd: yes, that sounds right? people still expect such things to fail though",
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      "text": "I was happily surprised",
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      "text": "Also, this kind of work is supposed to be done in DOH WG (or whatever WG is appropriate matter expert), DHC WG can provide review support.",
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      "text": "Jason Livingood presenting",
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      "text": "I\u0027m not aware of any Javascript API for generically mapping a name to an IP addres.",
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      "text": "***gianluca capitani just left the room",
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      "text": "that privacy issue applies for Do53 already",
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      "text": "Again the same privacy issues are true for DoT services; the issue is surfacing here because those connections are easier to block based on port numbers.  But I believe any actual treatment should deal with both.",
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      "text": "timecheck: 13 minutes",
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      "text": "I\u0027m having trouble hearing Vittorio",
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      "text": "Watson Ladd at mic",
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      "text": "Watson Ladd @ mic",
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      "text": "Suzanne Woolf @ the mic",
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    {
      "text": "@jhoyla ? you had the correct name ;-)",
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    {
      "text": "phew :P",
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    {
      "text": "? and 7 people in the mic line",
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      "text": "The IETF doesn?t regulate much of anything. :-)",
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      "text": "Warren Kumari @ mic",
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      "text": "@york that would be \"Woolf\" :-)",
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      "text": "Gurshabad Grover at mic",
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    {
      "text": "@Suzanne ? yes, I\u0027m supremely sorry about that. :-(",
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      "text": "Kirsty \"P\" @ the mic",
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      "text": "I think the notion of defaults vs. capabilities is significant.  I think many concerns would be mitigsated (and no worse than where we are today) if they were addressed by advising default config.",
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      "text": "Eliot Lear @ mic",
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      "text": "DId anyone catch Kristy?s comment enough to summarize for the minutes?",
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      "text": "\"this is important work and I want to see it happen and I don\u0027t care where\"",
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      "text": "GCHQ dislike Doh? (kidding, really:-) she was thanking us for considering the issues",
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      "text": "@aaron agreed that issues around the impact of defaults are very relevant here",
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      "text": "Ralf Weber at mic",
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      "text": "Leslie Daigle at mic",
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      "text": "***Janick Alexander L?di just left the room",
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      "text": "***Janick Alexander L?di just joined the room",
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      "text": "Wendy Selzer at mic (W3C)",
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      "text": "Session ends",
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